T.S.O.L, The Crowd, Joe's Garage (Cd Release), Disguster, The Strangers@ The Galaxy in Santa Ana
August 28th
All Ages
8:00 pm
3503 S Harbor Blvd in Santa Ana, CA
Theres an other band or two, not quite sure who it is. Its also Joe's Garage's Cd release show.
The Flier

I might actually go to this show. I haven't been since it's grand re-opening. Is it still over-run with drooling iron cross clad white power dicks? Fuck those dudes.

Yes sir you're right. I wasnt expecting much from CJ, he did all the classics. Opened with Blitzkrieg Bop, didnt make it til the end. But he was just as good as i thought it was going to be. It was nothing more than a good cover band but for the people who stayed they enjoyed it.

im hoping the nazi dont show up during Joe's Garage, that would be lame

Nice, sounds like a good show.

Hopefully I'm wrong and they don't show up at all but who knows.

yea i hope the nazi shmucks dont show up. there were swarms of them at the re oepning fear show and they really killed the vibes at the show

I've been pummeled by both security and skinheads there. But it's okay... I had the last laugh.

those dicks ripped my vest when i became a game of tug o war.

well ill be in front of the barricade the whole show shooting, so i wont really have to deal with nazi's. Im really looking forward to seeing the crowd play.

I wonder if I am still banned from the Galaxy....... hmmmm

This Friday! Joe's Garage is acutally going to have their first Cd for sale that day! thats a feat in its self.

I can't stand that place, plus the place will be crawling with scumbag white trash meatheads. It's been quite a while since the morons have had something to go to and there haven't been too many older/reunion bands playing locally and the Smut Peddlers are finished, so I'm sure the show will be lovely.

Jeff is spot on. We used to sell tickets at the Galaxy with KBH and even after several shows of selling 150 or more we were still told we had to do it. The Galaxy likes it when you fulfill their contract needs that you sign but often they don't fulfill their parts on the contract. We used to call them out on this too. So. Cal may not be the only offender of the presale of tickets but its far and away the worst. I grew up in the Houston scene and had many bands playing the biggest punk venues in town without ever selling tickets. We'd get to open for the touring acts like Marky Ramone, Fear, Bouncing Souls etc etc and never had to sell tickets. Granted the scene wasn't as robust as it is out here but the punk shows were packed, all ages AND sported a full bar. You can rarely do that in California.

Jeff, i have defiantly seen that happen, mostly at hogue barmichaels but ive seen it. But i would have to say, that last nights show ended up being pretty darn fair to every band that night. Every band got paid, Joe's Garage had a problem with a guitar head for like 20 minutes and the still played a full 45 minute set without anyone yelling at them to get started. I mean other than the crowd.

Adam is the booking agent for the Galaxy but then you have to realize that most of the headlining (punk & metal) bands that play are booked by Artist Worldwide (Chuck Bernal). The problem stems from headliners not being able to draw enough people to cover the amount (guarantee) they demand and most people that book venues have no idea what that band can draw on any given night. This is the reason pay-to-play (selling tickets to open a larger show or festival) came into being. Too many venues had big losses to cover since the band didn't draw the size crowd that was expected. Plain and simple. This practice opens the door to any band (whether they have experience or not) to play any show as long as they pay the required amount to the venue the night of the show. It doesn't mean they even have to sell the tickets in the first place as long as the venue gets its money.

California is not the only place that this practice has found a niche. It is everywhere. If you don't believe me, have a look for yourself... http://www.myspace.com/neverpaytoplay

If the "headliners" can't draw then have them sell tickets as well. That is fair.

Technically, they are selling tickets by their name being a headliner but in this day and age what a headlining band draws can vary quite a bit from city to city. The trouble seems to arise when a promoter is not aware of what a headlining band draws in their city. Headlining bands tend to play the same venues/cities so if a promoter has half a clue he can usually figure out what a particular headliner will draw but then most promoters are a clueless bunch.

In regards to the Galaxy & Coach House, Adam has been the local/national talent buyer for them for many years. Adam also tends to take the easy way when it comes to booking shows... book Artist Worldwide bands for the majority of the shows. After all, Ezzat of SOS Records trusts him to book his bigger punk bands and he also has a lot of fairly popular (maybe back in '85) hair metal bands. Adam also knows from past experience that in southern California there are more than enough half assed punk & metal bands that would pay good money just to be able play on the same show with these headliners (point of fact... "Adam doesn't like or listen to punk or metal music" source: OC Weekly). Until any of these venues or promoters run out of bands willing to sell tickets just for a slot to play on a particular show, this practice is going to be used.

Of course, they will have to sell a large number of tickets. The Misfits guarantee is ridiculous.

Just think about it... one band has to sell 120 tickets at $23.00 (advanced ticket price) = $2760.00. Now, multiply that by 3 ($2760 x 3) giving you a grand total of $8280.00 for 360 tickets sold and approx. 80% of the Misfits guarantee is covered (it would nice to have 80% of your work covered).

Ditch you are 100% right. Im pretty sure after the Misfits show they wont be playing a pay to play show unless its a really line up and they are high up but as a band of their size, i cant see them denying a show with the misfits ( a show that will sell out )plus on the ticket they are the last band to play before Misfits, which is a super rad spot. And with the lack of all age venues that arent pay to play, they have no where to play. Its sad but why do you think we are playing park shows? haha.

Also im pretty sure they are selling tickets for 17 and i think its 23 the day of? not sure.